So, about those immigrant stats

It’s been a long time (two years!!) since I’ve posted. It was a much needed hiatus to deal with personal stuff. But, a comment thread on a friend’s Facebook post had me decide to change that.

One comment in response to a friend’s share of the above meme said “Although that’s not true, I appreciate her point. We would be better served by providing legal avenues for immigration before trying to block the illegal ones.”

When asked for citations, they said “CDC reports two E. Coli outbreaks in lettuce, with 5 dead from the first outbreak and none from the second. Were there any other fatal outbreaks? As you pointed out, the information on murders in 2018 is not yet available. These numbers come out with around a 2 year delay to allow time for investigations and legal proceedings to be concluded, as I recall.  Of course we can look at old numbers. Back in 2015, just in Texas alone, there were 46 murders committed by immigrants in the country illegally.And no, the conclusion of that last article I linked is not lost on me.”

Another comment bemoaned the fact that people share that meme without fact checking and that Ally isn’t “credible.”

Statistics about immigrants are hard to come by. But not impossible.

Here was my response to these white liberals who meant well, but didn’t dig deep enough.

So, Ally on Twitter didn’t get it exactly right. Woopty doo.

The CDC reports that about 3,000 people die every year from foodborne illnesses. There are 47.8 million illnesses from these pathogens and 127,839 hospitalizations. E.coli had 2,138 hospitalizations and Salmonella had 19,336. There were 378 deaths from Salmonella and 6 deaths from E.Coli.

The Cato Institute found that undocumented immigrants were 25% less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans. (Legal immigrants were 87% less likely.) Undocumented immigrants were also 11.5% less likely than native-born Americans to be convicted of sexual assault and 79% less likely to be convicted of larceny.

A 2018 study in the journal “Criminology” looked at whether violent crime increases as the number of undocumented immigrants in a community goes up. Researchers found it does not. Violent crime appears to fall when there are more undocumented immigrants living in a community.

The Center for Migration Studies and Pew Research Center found that there has been a steady decline in the number of undocumented immigrants, since 2010. Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 396,579 in 2018.

Undocumented people have increasingly been here for 10 years or more. DHS says nearly 80% in 2015 have lived in the U.S. for more than a decade, and only 6% came to the country over the previous five years.

DHS says 340,056 people were removed (i.e. deported) last year, down from 1.86 million in 2000. Removals are done for people whose visa lapsed, fraudulent marriage, receiving public assistance, and convicted criminals (including alien smuggling, document fraud, domestic violence, crimes of “moral turpitude,” drug or controlled substance offenses,  firearms trafficking, money laundering, fraud, espionage, sabotage, terrorism, rape, murder, and any other “aggravated felonies”). Murder is just a small percentage of these removals.

12% of immigrant removals are due to violent crime. About 9,000 immigrants were removed because of homicide….from 2009-2017. That’s an average of 1,125 a year.

So… foodborne illnesses make almost 50 million people sick every year, killing around 3,000 people. And, approximately 1,100 immigrants are deported each year for murder.

Note: This research was done at 3am. On Google. I’m sure there are issues with my argument, the sources I used, and my understanding of the statistics. But, I think it’s enough to halt these folks’ quick dismissal of Ally, and maybe get them to look at things a little bit more.


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